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	<title>Comments on: Can Non-Fiction Really Be Discussed?</title>
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		<title>By: Nick DiMartino</title>
		<link>http://bookgroupbuzz.booklistonline.com/2009/04/05/can-non-fiction-really-be-discussed/comment-page-1/#comment-61644</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick DiMartino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 18:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Gloria, Anne, Elizabeth and Holley. Sincerely, I adore the passionate energy of your responses and I&#039;d be lying if I didn&#039;t admit the piece was intended to be provocative. I really like your idea of holding the author to account for his facts the same as you would a narrator in fiction. Thanks! And if you&#039;re ever in the Seattle area looking for a book club, well, ...

Nick]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gloria, Anne, Elizabeth and Holley. Sincerely, I adore the passionate energy of your responses and I&#8217;d be lying if I didn&#8217;t admit the piece was intended to be provocative. I really like your idea of holding the author to account for his facts the same as you would a narrator in fiction. Thanks! And if you&#8217;re ever in the Seattle area looking for a book club, well, &#8230;</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gloria Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For more than five years, our library has been facilitating a successful book discussion group that is completely nonfiction based.  We have had groups from 4 to over 16 come to discuss nonfiction titles.  I find nonfiction a marvelous vehicle for book discussion (and certainly not just memoirs).

For one thing, nonfiction brings out a variety of readers.  You don&#039;t have to &quot;belong&quot; to our nonfiction book discussion group - if you see we&#039;re discussing a title that interests you, you are welcome to come.  We have had much success in our goal to attract male participants, and while we have a core group of regulars (female and male), there are almost always new faces each month because of the variety of material available for the program.  We&#039;ve had World War II submariners (for Terrible Hours)to employees of GE (for Jack: Straight from the Gut) to scuba divers (for Shadow Divers) to people with family histories dovetailing our books at discussions.  Their experiences always lend insight into a title.  The fun thing, as with fiction, is that readers bring their own individual experiences to the book, and that always makes for interesting discussion.  

Our readers are often very animated about their feelings about the author, the author&#039;s angle on an issue presented, the readability and language of a work, and the broader truths a book may point toward.  Sure, there&#039;s always discussion about interesting &quot;data contained in the book,&quot; the author&#039;s version of facts, which I rarely consider irrefutable or non-discussible, and there are (hopefully) always some &quot;I&#039; didn&#039;t know thats&quot; about a book.  Our job as facilitors is to go beyond those to open up the controversies, the dicotomies, the thoughts that were either only hinted at or those left unsaid.  Good nonfiction is ripe with material to chew on, pull apart, and discuss.

In fact, we do quite a bit of &quot;questioning the narrator&#039;s reliability, building opposing arguments, coming to new conclusions, debating characters and interpreting events&quot; in the nonfiction we discuss as a group.

While nonfiction may present a certain truth as a given, that is all the more reason to discuss it -  how better than among other interested folk to tease out the truths that may lay outside the bounds of an author&#039;s view or motivation?  

I agree with Holley that books, both fiction and nonfiction, should take us beyond the book covers, whether that is dissecting a character&#039;s motives, the causes of a war, ways to sustain human life on earth, whatever.  Nonfiction is a legitimate and popular venue for reading, and it should be for discussion as well, from literary elements to real life truths.  

Gloria, Downers Grove]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For more than five years, our library has been facilitating a successful book discussion group that is completely nonfiction based.  We have had groups from 4 to over 16 come to discuss nonfiction titles.  I find nonfiction a marvelous vehicle for book discussion (and certainly not just memoirs).</p>
<p>For one thing, nonfiction brings out a variety of readers.  You don&#8217;t have to &#8220;belong&#8221; to our nonfiction book discussion group &#8211; if you see we&#8217;re discussing a title that interests you, you are welcome to come.  We have had much success in our goal to attract male participants, and while we have a core group of regulars (female and male), there are almost always new faces each month because of the variety of material available for the program.  We&#8217;ve had World War II submariners (for Terrible Hours)to employees of GE (for Jack: Straight from the Gut) to scuba divers (for Shadow Divers) to people with family histories dovetailing our books at discussions.  Their experiences always lend insight into a title.  The fun thing, as with fiction, is that readers bring their own individual experiences to the book, and that always makes for interesting discussion.  </p>
<p>Our readers are often very animated about their feelings about the author, the author&#8217;s angle on an issue presented, the readability and language of a work, and the broader truths a book may point toward.  Sure, there&#8217;s always discussion about interesting &#8220;data contained in the book,&#8221; the author&#8217;s version of facts, which I rarely consider irrefutable or non-discussible, and there are (hopefully) always some &#8220;I&#8217; didn&#8217;t know thats&#8221; about a book.  Our job as facilitors is to go beyond those to open up the controversies, the dicotomies, the thoughts that were either only hinted at or those left unsaid.  Good nonfiction is ripe with material to chew on, pull apart, and discuss.</p>
<p>In fact, we do quite a bit of &#8220;questioning the narrator&#8217;s reliability, building opposing arguments, coming to new conclusions, debating characters and interpreting events&#8221; in the nonfiction we discuss as a group.</p>
<p>While nonfiction may present a certain truth as a given, that is all the more reason to discuss it &#8211;  how better than among other interested folk to tease out the truths that may lay outside the bounds of an author&#8217;s view or motivation?  </p>
<p>I agree with Holley that books, both fiction and nonfiction, should take us beyond the book covers, whether that is dissecting a character&#8217;s motives, the causes of a war, ways to sustain human life on earth, whatever.  Nonfiction is a legitimate and popular venue for reading, and it should be for discussion as well, from literary elements to real life truths.  </p>
<p>Gloria, Downers Grove</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of my bookclubs, at the college where I work, has had several lively and stimulating conversations about nonfiction, such as What&#039;s the Matter with Kansas, Nickel and Dimed, and The Year of Magical Thinking. I think we appreciate the opportunity to share and reflect about such thought-provoking books.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my bookclubs, at the college where I work, has had several lively and stimulating conversations about nonfiction, such as What&#8217;s the Matter with Kansas, Nickel and Dimed, and The Year of Magical Thinking. I think we appreciate the opportunity to share and reflect about such thought-provoking books.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our book club read a book about Lincoln, in terms of his being a writer (just looked it up -- it&#039;s &quot;Lincoln: the Biography of a Writer&quot;). It was a fine discussion because we could get into Lincoln&#039;s life, and not just his writing. Plus, we also brought in the inevitable Obama comparisons. So it worked OK. I think some of the fiction works have been better and made for livelier conversations. I was interested in what you had to say about memoirs, too, because at this month&#039;s meeting I&#039;m getting ready to recommend a really great memoir about growing up with bipolar disorder, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bipolarbarebook.com/about-the-book/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &quot;bipolar bare.&quot;&lt;/a&gt; Very powerful stuff here, about the author&#039;s struggle to come to terms with his mental illness. The sex is pretty in-your-face, but it points out the wild forces that drugs and the mania unleash in the mentally ill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our book club read a book about Lincoln, in terms of his being a writer (just looked it up &#8212; it&#8217;s &#8220;Lincoln: the Biography of a Writer&#8221;). It was a fine discussion because we could get into Lincoln&#8217;s life, and not just his writing. Plus, we also brought in the inevitable Obama comparisons. So it worked OK. I think some of the fiction works have been better and made for livelier conversations. I was interested in what you had to say about memoirs, too, because at this month&#8217;s meeting I&#8217;m getting ready to recommend a really great memoir about growing up with bipolar disorder, <a href="http://www.bipolarbarebook.com/about-the-book/" rel="nofollow"> &#8220;bipolar bare.&#8221;</a> Very powerful stuff here, about the author&#8217;s struggle to come to terms with his mental illness. The sex is pretty in-your-face, but it points out the wild forces that drugs and the mania unleash in the mentally ill.</p>
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		<title>By: Holley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 16:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are book group discussions confined to being discussions of books?  Is that all books are good for?  I don&#039;t think so.  I believe books should foster discussion, thought, innovation, and ideas outside of their covers.  I lead a genre reading group at my library (participants all read a different book on one topic, fiction or nonfiction) and our discussions frequently revolve around the ideas and history of a topic rather than the actual books each participant chooses to read.  Books broaden lives, not just reading skills.
Holley]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are book group discussions confined to being discussions of books?  Is that all books are good for?  I don&#8217;t think so.  I believe books should foster discussion, thought, innovation, and ideas outside of their covers.  I lead a genre reading group at my library (participants all read a different book on one topic, fiction or nonfiction) and our discussions frequently revolve around the ideas and history of a topic rather than the actual books each participant chooses to read.  Books broaden lives, not just reading skills.<br />
Holley</p>
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